Vergecast hosts revisit iPhone Duo rating after Apple's dual-screen release
The Vergecast hosts are debating whether the iPhone Duo should have been released as an iPad rather than an iPhone.
By Ayanda Boateng ·

The Verge's David and Nilay are publicly revisiting the 7/10 score they assigned the iPhone Duo, questioning on a Vergecast episode whether the device belongs in a different product category. The hosts are debating whether the dual-screen device deserved the score it was given.
The discussion, titled "The Vergecast: Notes on an iPhone Duo review, a PHP scandal, Brendan Carr, and more," centers on whether the iPhone Duo should have launched as an iPad. The hosts are considering whether the device would have been better received under a different name, such as the iPad Duo.
The Vergecast hosts are also examining the outer screen of the iPhone Duo, referencing a comment from Daring Fireball's John Gruber that described it as "the worst iPhone ever." The hosts are considering how the device might change over time and whether it will ever be the phone for everyone.
The episode also covers a large PHP cybersecurity flaw, changes in AI shopping and how retailers interact with customers, Brendan Carr, a reboot inside Netflix, and Gemini news. The hosts also discussed vibe-coding creators, the AI math world, and the flying Tesla Roadster.
Listeners can call the Vergecast Hotline at 866-VERGE11 or send an email to vergecast@theverge.com to share their thoughts.





